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Jeremy Levine's avatar

Great piece. Enforcement really only works when infrastructure exists to make enforcement necessary in rare cases. Hard to enforce speed limits when the roads are so wide that many people speed. Hard to enforce bathroom norms when there are so few restrooms

Japan’s restrooms and associated social norms sound like the platonic ideal, but I’d happily take ubiquitous European pay toilets over nonexistent American toilets

Ryan Puzycki's avatar

Thanks! Yes, and you’ve identified the chicken-and-egg root of the problem. Good infrastructure incentivizes better (self-correcting) behavior.

Maryallene Arsanto's avatar

I live in the Pacific Northwest near Seattle. Many public toilets range from off-putting to outright disgusting. Some businesses have taken to locking their restrooms; in some cases you have to ask for a code, in others a staff member must let you in. Some people turn tricks and shoot up in public restrooms. In public (obviously not in businesses) I favor pay toilets. That way I could be assured of cleanliness, at least I hope so. However, especially on the part of the "homeless," there is such a sense of entitlement, there would be outrage and probably damage to the structures. Plus it would by hugely unpalatable politically. I think a cultural change would be necessary in my part of the country before we could address cleaner, safer toilets. I agree with what you said about basic civic infrastructure being viewed as a social safety net, which is sad, and doesn't help anyone.

Ryan Puzycki's avatar

Thanks, Maryallene! I think our views on urban disorder more generally need to change, as do housing (and other) policies that exacerbate these problems.

Chet's avatar

I, too, was amazed by Japanese bathrooms on my recent trip. Not only were they spotlessly clean (even in subway stations), but many had heated toilet seats! It took me about a week to adjust when I returned to NYC lol!

Ryan Puzycki's avatar

Ha! Regular toilets seem so primitive once you've experienced the robo-toilets.

KLevinson's avatar

I was fine with safe, clean European pay toilets on my trip to Scandinavia and to other places. I look forward even more to Japan this fall.

Ryan Puzycki's avatar

I didn’t intend to criticize them, only to point out that they are less available than they used to be. The paywall means they still exist!

KLevinson's avatar

I didn’t think you were criticizing. I should have been clearer; I’d take pay toilets here over our current system any day, as long as they were clean and well maintained!

Ryan Puzycki's avatar

Ha, I think *I* should have been clearer. During editing, I cut a clause that indicated that the paywall means they remain clean and available, which is infinitely better than having none at all. Since two of my most reliable readers flagged it, I put the clause back into the essay.

KLevinson's avatar

😂

Maryallene Arsanto's avatar

I enjoyed the allusion to Ozymandias. :)

Duane McMullen's avatar

It's a standard 'pick two' situation. You can have:

1. decent public toilets (and other public spaces)

2. low cost housing

3. tolerate the homeless

You'll get the two you pick and the opposite of the one you don't.

Ryan Puzycki's avatar

Of course, we've chosen not to do 1 or 2, and so we don’t tolerate 3.

CMar's avatar

The idea of entering the public restrooms in Washington Square Park shocks and appalls me. I’ve never been inside and never plan to.

CMar's avatar

Good Lord, I just got to this line “most of the restrooms in New York City’s subway stations remain conspicuously padlocked.” If you are ever in the NYC metro and there is a restroom that is not padlocked, do NOT go inside. I can only imagine the horrors.