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Tom Matte's avatar

Ryan, thanks for your great summary of the still salient story told in Crabgrass Frontier. I don’t agree with Morgan’s take on it. I have not read the planet of cities piece. I grew up in the suburbs and traveled to cities around the globe. That experience and the data contradicts the idea that horizontal, low-density, single family urbanization (i.e. suburbanization) like that still dominating urban growth in the US is inevitable as countries develop is just not true. And the “bias that density is better than dispersion” is not a bias and greatly oversimplifies the issue. A vast body of research shows that density done the right way along with mixed land use, transit, parks pedestrian-safe streets provides huge benefits: better health, land conservation, and energy efficiency. The US sprawling urbanization pattern is one important contributor to the US lagging most other high-income countries on health metrics like obesity, traffic fatalities (especially among pedestrians) and life expectancy. Also untrue: that gas taxes now fully fund highway maintenance and construction. And buses, are only really as useful as streetcars in cities if provided enough dedicated lanes and other priority treatments.

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I grew up in the suburbs of London but when I left the Navy at 22, I swore I would forever live in either completely urban or completely rural. In the next few years, I managed the East End of London, The Barbican in Plymouth, Downtown Manhattan and then Palo Alto. I was in Urban Heaven.

After that, by an accident of employment, I spent the next 20 years among the dreary strip malls of Silicon Valley. When we first arrived in Mountain View we went for a walk along El Camino but there were no sidewalks and we had to turn around and walk home. Cars Only! In Almaden Valley, we had a three mile drive to the nearest pub until they put a bar inside Whole Foods. My kids never left the house unless I was driving.

We are finally back in the Urbs of Bristol and we are in Urban Heaven once more. There are 100 pubs within walking distance and I talk to a stranger every time I sit at the bar. We get asked all the time why anyone would trade California for Bristol but it sure is nice going for a walk and making friends.

I wrote more about it here:

https://raggedclown.substack.com/p/urbs-vs-suburbs

One thing I have noticed coming back home is that all those almost-inner-city neighbourhoods around Central London were absolutely shit 25 years ago — filled with rubbish and graffiti and poor people who couldn't afford the suburbs. But now they are all delightful and filled with glorious inner city pubs and lovely little ethnic restaurants. No cars required. Anyone would give an arm to live there if they could afford it.

I think England must've had the same government thumb on the suburban scale that yours had but I think they have finally remembered that the inner city is quite lovely, actually. We should build more of it.

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